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......2012 Wayfarer Midwinters some observations by and tips from our champion, Trevor Fisher a work in progress: updated 8 March 2012 |
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From:
Trevor Fisher
To:
Al Schonborn
Sent:
Thursday, February 09, 2012 5:50 AM
Subject:
Thanks
Hi Al,
Richard has just forwarded me some more
pics - thanks!
I just wanted to say thank you again, to
you and everyone else in the Wayfarer Class and at the sailing club in
Eustis who made the event so good and in particular, to Richard
Watterson for putting up with me in the back of his nice new Mark
4! Without exception, the North American Wayfarer fleet are a
pretty special group of people.
I am pretty poor at speaking off the cuff,
but really meant all I said at the prizegiving. Like you, I have
sailed at a few events around the place and without doubt, the
Midwinters was one of the most well organised, enjoyable events I have
ever sailed at. Richard Johnson summed it up by saying 'boats,
beer and friends'!
The racing was spectacularly well run, with
no waiting around, good courses, good starts, no unnecessary
postponements or mark changes etc etc..... The folk in the club
- the Lingemans, the Murtos, Andy Douma and the MC Scow folks
and others were all very welcoming and made the event what it is.
I repeat my invitation to all to come to
Ireland. We have space in the house, access to loads of sailing
kit, boats, etc, so all you will need to bring is yourself!
If I don't manage to come across for the
next Midwinters, I will definitely see you all (at the Worlds) in
Toronto, but hopefully some of you will manage to get to this side of
the Atlantic before then!
And, it was great to finally meet you!
Thanks again,
Trevor
From: Al Schonborn
[mailto:uncle-al3854@cogeco.ca]
Sent: 13 February 2012 22:58 To: Trevor Fisher W8848 Hi, Trevor:
Finally got home last
night, after Marc and I decided we would go home a day early and pass
on the LESC club races. Thanks for the lovely letter which I am asking
you to let me post on our CWA site - and I would also like to copy (in
the next instalment) the various people you thank/praise. BTW, in
my not all that humble opinion, your off-the-cuff speech was excellent.
Progress is being made
on the pics editing front for Mids coverage and I hope to do the
results posting as well as a partial report tonight. Meanwhile, I can't
wait to try out my newly learned techniques at the northern regattas
and I have another question for you: Do you sail small shifty lakes at
all? If so, does your flat at all costs philosophy apply there as well?
Now back to Mids work.
Thanks for the invite to Ireland though I do very much hope that we'll
see you at the 2013 Mids and even the 2012 DM (Danish Nats) in late
August.
Best regards,
Uncle Al (W3854)
PS: Did you like the
pic of you and Bubbles first to the windward mark alone in
the dark skies? I thought it was great and asked Richard to send it in
case you didn't have it.
From:
Al Schonborn
To:
Trevor Fisher
Cc:
Butch Minson ; Trevor Fisher W8848 ; Tony Krauss W864 ; Ted Benedict
W2415 ; Scott Tillema MC2107 & C Scow ; Richard Watterson W10862 ;
Richard Johnson W10139 ; Richard Hartley W Copyright Holder ; Peter
Rahn W286 ; Nick Seraphinoff W10864 ; Mary Krauss ; Mark Hartley ; Marc
Bennnett W10861 ; Julie Seraphinoff ; Jim Lingeman W2136 ; Jim &
Linda Heffernan W2458/W1066 ; Dotty and Mike Murto ; Denis Oldham LESC
; Dave Moring ; Andy Douma W9913 ; Al Schonborn W3854 ; Dave & Joan
Williams
Sent:
Wednesday, February 15, 2012 1:37 PM
Subject:
Re: Thanks
Hi again, Trevor - and
all those I have copied:
Great stuff, Trevor,
which inspired me to rush out into the web and buy the two books you
recommended - see below:
Delivery
estimate: Feb 21 2012 - Mar 7 2012
Will respond/comment in
green below, but first have to admit I cannot find the coaching
materials I thought I had copied from your computer. If I give you the
secret code to my site FTP, can you (re)send those to me?
Best regards,
Uncle Al (W3854)
From:
Trevor Fisher
To:
Al Schonborn
Sent:
Tuesday, February 14, 2012 4:51 AM
Hi Al,
By all means copy what I
wrote - I am sure I have left out some important people (you could add
Scott Tilema and the Flying Scot folks to my list!), but it is
through my forgetfulness rather than a deliberate snub! I have
written something for Linda Heffernan and passed it on to her for
Skimmer, I also wrote a
short piece for Yachts and Yachthing, the main dinghy magazine in
the UK. I did use one of the pics that I copied from you - I hope
that is ok? One of my (many!) hobby horses over here is the lack
of coverage of the Wayfarer class in the UK and the failure to blow our
own trumpet. There was never any mention of Richard and Mark
going to the North Americans, for example... lovely report, Trevor - one
that I have promptly "stolen" for the Whiffle Web as part of
our Mids coverage (so that it will appear on our 2012 CWA Yearbook DVD
where the link won't necessarily be enough)
I do sail 'flat at all
costs' except when heeling the boat to steer (bearing off etc) and when
the wind is really light and I need to heel the boat slightly to keep
the boom to leeward. I could send a brief page with my thoughts
on this if you want? What I said to a few folks (and what I
think) is that it doesnt matter what we do in the boats to be more
comfortable / faster / more efficient / happier......but we need to be
able to justify it to ourselves. This can apply to rig tension,
sheeting angles, adjustable bridles, mast chocks (think Mike Mac and
Ian Porter!), sailing flat or pretty much anything else....... If
we can reason and justify things for ourselves, we will be happier and
more confident, sailing in a better frame of mind will be better than
doing sometihng that we cant reason in our own head. I couldn't agree more, Trevor!!
Sailing flat at all costs
gives the biggest projected aerofoil / sail area possible, gives us an
ideal hull shape and does not result in any force increasing
displacement. There is an arguement that heeling gives a hull
shape that tends to 'squeeze' the boat to windward, but I dont
agree. To get to this shape, we are creating a bigger bow
wave, requiring more energy, and there is quite a big force from the
sails towards the sea, increasing displacement..........Its easier to
explain in diagrams, which I can do if you want!. definitely a new trick that
this old dog will try this summer - still trying to figure out how this
will affect my shift-playing on the very small lakes
I may get to the midwinters
next year, but it is unlikely that I will make the Danish
Nationals.....getting Denmark from ireland is very expensive,
especially in August. I will be in France in July, at a wedding
with my family, so even suggesting Denmark to my wife wouldnt go down
well! Rats!!
looks like we won't meet again then until 2013 :( speaking
of which, after Mids coverage is done, I will set up the 2013 Worlds
site which will start with a poll about course preferences and # of
races desired - Marc Bennett and I decided that our committee should
let each timely entry vote on these questions: e.g. 7 or 9 races in 5
days of racing? courses: all sausages, all Olympic triangles or 50/50?
There are a lot of really
good photos - I am sure I have the one you mention somewhere, but
havent had time to go through all of the pics. have copied said pic (above)
into my on-line version of this e-mail exchange
All the best, Trevor
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From:
richard watterson
To:
Al Schonborn
Cc:
Trevor Fisher ; Butch Minson ; Tony Krauss W864 ; Ted Benedict W2415 ;
Scott Tillema MC2107 & C Scow ; Richard Johnson W10139 ; Richard
Hartley W Copyright Holder ; Peter Rahn W286 ; Nick Seraphinoff W10864
; Mary Krauss ; Mark Hartley ; Marc Bennnett W10861 ; Julie Seraphinoff
; Jim Lingeman W2136 ; Jim & Linda Heffernan W2458/W1066 ; Dotty
and Mike Murto ; Denis Oldham LESC ; Dave Moring ; Andy Douma W9913 ;
Dave & Joan Williams
Sent:
Wednesday, February 15, 2012 2:14 PM
I feel compelled to correct Trevor. Far from "putting up with him..", it was a great experience to sail with him. "Putting up with him.." amounted to him solving in a quick and efficient way the various problems that come up like blocks coming unscrewed from shackle and falling into the floor, spinnaker halyard twisted hopelessly on the forestay and the countless times that I was looking forward obsessing about all the wrong things but he was in the back of the boat handling things while I dawdled. It was as much his ability to stay unruffled and calm as anything else that contributed to our success. Trevor is a great guy and we are lucky to have had his company during midwinters. Richard w |
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From:
Trevor Fisher
To:
Al Schonborn
Cc:
richard watterson
Sent:
Monday, February 20, 2012 6:06 AM
Subject:
Mids pics postings
Hi Al,
The pics look great on the
website......it's always good to look through pics of events and I
will certainly be pulling some out for a coaching evening I will be
doing in the club here in March!
Richard and I seemed to
sail with a lot of bend in our mast (which was more than I wanted but
probably suited the windy conditions on in the first 6 races!) -
have a look at pic 110s and pic w on the same page -
way more bend than anyone else! We did put some chocks in, but
didnt have enough, Richard and I spoke about using a bit of scrap wood
to fill the space, but decided against it. At least the mast was
not overbent (which would show if there were big creases
from the spreaders down to the clew) and the mainsail set
well. I did sail with quite a lot of vang, especially on day 1,
so that would explain some of the bend, although there are pics where
there is not enough vang, such as pic g on Friday
Race 2.3 - way too much twist in the sail and top batten nowhere
near parallel to the boom. The top tell tale would definitely
have been streaming here! I also had the jib sheet travellers set
as far back as possible - this happened by mistake: they were set about
4 or 5 notches forward, I tried to adjust one and it slipped all
the way to the back of the track. This seemed to be fast,
and we pointed higher, so we left it here for the rest of the
event!
Our mast was raked quite
far forward, probably about as far forward as it should be, so if we
had decided to rake it back a bit, we would have needed to move the jib
travellers forward to maintain the same leech tension on the jib.
We may have gone a bit better upwind with the mast raked back slightly,
but would have lost out downwind. I am not so good downwind, so
the balance was probably about right.
I dont see many pics of me
sailing a boat, so am happy to see that the boat is reasonably flat
most of the time (but there are lots of examples when I dont keep the
boat flat, some at key moments like bearing off at the windward mark - ha and hb
- definitley not as good as Marc / Julie and you / Tony in o and p
on the same page - but a bit better than Nick and Peter, 111y!)
Regards,
Trevor
From:
Al Schonborn
To:
Trevor Fisher
Cc:
Butch Minson ; Trevor Fisher W8848 ; Tony
Krauss W864 ; Ted Benedict W2415 ; Scott
Tillema MC2107 & C Scow ; Richard Watterson W10862 ; Richard
Johnson W10139 ; Richard Hartley W Copyright
Holder ; Peter
Rahn W286 ; Nick Seraphinoff W10864 ; Mary
Krauss ; Mark Hartley ; Marc
Bennnett W10861 ; Julie Seraphinoff ; Jim Lingeman
W2136 ; Jim & Linda Heffernan
W2458/W1066 ; Dotty and Mike Murto ; Denis
Oldham LESC ; Dave Moring ; Andy Douma W9913
; Al Schonborn W3854 ; Dave &
Joan Williams
Sent:
Monday, February 20, 2012 11:33 AM
Subject:
Re: Mids pics postings
Hi, Trevor:
What a treat it is to
have someone really putting my efforts in the pics posting dept to good
use. Don't have much time today since today is Weekly Whiffle
day (after a three-week break!) and I want to include your observations
in this issue.
Just a couple of points
for discussion therefore:
click here for XL image
All for now. Best
regards,
Uncle Al (W3854)
From:
Trevor Fisher
To:
Al Schonborn
Cc:
Butch Minson ; Tony Krauss W864 ; Ted Benedict W2415 ; Scott Tillema
MC2107 & C Scow ; Richard Watterson W10862 ; Richard Johnson W10139
; Richard Hartley W Copyright Holder ; Peter Rahn W286 ; Nick
Seraphinoff W10864 ; Mary Krauss ; Mark Hartley ; Marc Bennnett W10861
; Julie Seraphinoff ; Jim Lingeman W2136 ; Jim & Linda Heffernan
W2458/W1066 ; Dotty and Mike Murto ; Denis Oldham LESC ; Dave Moring ;
Andy Douma W9913 ; Dave & Joan Williams
Sent:
Monday, February 20, 2012 11:49 AM
Hi, Al,
Our boom was high, as the
mast was raked quite far forward - right on the limit of what is
recommended (I cant remember the exact distance - 23' 9''?). We
were also using Richard's Evolution Sails which may be cut slightly
differently to other sails. However the forward mast rake will
have the effect of making the boom appear higher. I used
quite a lot of vang in the wondy weather, but probably not as much as I
would use in my own boat, with a smaller crew.
I agree with what you say
about jib leech tension - this is where the streamers on the leech are
really useful. If you think of it crudely, when the mast is raked
forward, it has the same effect as moving the jib traveller forward,
effectively increasing the 'pull' on the leech, for the same amount of
sheet tension applied by the crew. Raking the mast back has the
opposite effect - effectively reducing the 'pull' on the leech, and
requiring the crew to pull the jib in more to obtain the same jib
tension. Mike Mac explains leech tension really well, in the boat
park and makes the point that 1 inch on the sheet has a huge effect on
the shape of the jib. Richard was making the same point, while we
were sailing, and did play about with the sheet tension.
I look forward to the
latest Whiffle!
Trevor
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still more
enlightenment from our 2012 Midwinters champion, Trevor Fisher:
From:
nseraphinoff@comcast.net [mailto:nseraphinoff@comcast.net]
Sent: Sat 3/3/2012 14:05 To: Trevor Fisher
<>Hi, Trevor,
It was an absolute pleasure to have met you and raced against you. I hope your snake pictures came out good. Something you said during the regatta caught my ear and I would like to hear more about it. It was probably obvious to you that I do better in heavy air and it is the same for Peter. It is very easy to say "Yeah they are both 200 hundred pounders!" but I don't think thats all of it. I was always better in heavy air than the light stuff. Even in the early eighties when my wife and I only totaled 300 lbs we always did better in heavy air. I think you said something about technique and would like to hear more about it. > <> Best Wishes.> Nick
From: "Trevor
Fisher" Hi
Nick,
It's good to
hear back from you.....Its 8.25 a.m. here and I had a 5 a.m. start. I
am sitting on a ferry to Scotland to spend a week working on a winter
mountaineering course - very different weather to Florida!
I know what
you mean about the whole 'heavy weather thing'. I always did much
better in heavy weather, in all the classes I have sailed in and even
with light crews - in the first race of last year's Brit Nationals, we
were definitely one of the fastest boats upwind in the first race
(gusting 33 knots!) but there was only one boat in the fleet with a
lighter team.
I was lucky,
many years ago, to spend a lot of time sailing with a really good
friend, who was also a great helm. We swapped around a bit in the
boat and took turns crewing and helming. He really drilled into
me the importance of keeping the boat flat - once that was mastered, I
could concentrate on everything else. Have a look through the
pics from the Midwinters, at how much we all sail heeled over, which is
definitiely not quick!
I think that
once people are more confident in stronger winds, they automatically do
better, everything is a bit more intuitive. Having said that, we still
need to 'go the right way' and going the right way is something we can
all learn.
There are
people who are good in lighter winds, they just seem to be able to
sniff out a breeze, or be in the right place at the right time. I
used to always hate light winds (and it's still not my favourite
condition), but I have tried really hard to learn what to do. I
think, in light winds, people tend to take risks, hit corners, take
chances. In light winds, we have to do the opposite!
If we take risks, it sometimes pays off big time, but mostly we just
end up down the pan!
<>Jim and Linda
pulled out a big lead in one of the races in the Midwinters and led by
quite a way. Years ago, I would have tried to catch them by
taking a big risk, and probably would have ended up losing more places,
whcih would have resulted in me disliking light winds even more.
Nowadays, I tend to sail the percentages, to try and do the right
thing with regard to the fleet as a whole, and ignore individual
boats. In that race, I still 'went with the fleet' sticking to all the classic rules of playing the percentages. Luckily, the fleet went the 'right way' and we ended up catching Jim and Linda, but I still would have been more than happy to get a 2nd or 3rd in that race, as the wnd was so patchy. In the scheme of things, I wasn't trying to catch them, but was trying to beat the majority of the fleet - it was more important to do this in each race, than to try and beat all boats in some races. This was particularly true at the Midwinters, with no throwouts. This was more down to the fleet doing the right thing than me being really smart!> The general rules are:
Interestingly,
many people love strong winds, and are pretty quick in a blow.
They also make it clear that they don't like light winds, which makes
it much easier to beat them in light winds! In the Nationals last
year, a few boats had good starts in a few of the lighter races, but
took huge chances, sailing way out to one side of the course. It
just doesn't work all the time. In a regatta, a consistent series
of results puts you near the top, so I try to be consistent rather than
up and down.
I hope this
makes some sense - but is probably pretty woolly!
Feel free to
ask away.........Race strategy is something I really like trying to
work out, and thinking about answers to questions is great.
Sailing with Richard was great in that respect, as I tend to think out
loud and talk a lot when I am sailnig, Richard tends to ask a lot of
questions, so there was quite a lot of chat in the boat at the
Midwinters.
I will certainly try to get across to the Mid winters next year, I emailed Al and he said he may be able to get a boat, as I may be able to get my crew from last year's Nationals across......... I am looking
forward to seeing all of you folks next year, if not in Eustis, then in
Toronto!
Best regards,
Trevor
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