----- Original Message ----- 
From: Al Schonborn 
To: bcmurray 
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 12:25 AM
Subject:  starting rules question

Hi, Brian:

Yours is a very good question. As you tell this incident, you are absolutely right: you did do exactly what was required of you. In this case, Rule 11 applies since you are approaching the start line to start which means the Mark-Room Rule (#18) does not apply (see Section 2C preamble)

In Rule 11 the instruction is:

11 On the Same Tack, Overlapped
When boats are on the same tack and overlapped, a windward boat shall keep clear of a leeward boat.

Your question about whether a boat other than the one next to you can protest you in this situation is like some things in Math - they're obvious but hard to prove. As far as I am aware, it is not specifically stated but has always been assumed, that when you are in a mark-room situation or a windward/leeward situation, your beef is with the boat immediately beside you (or immediately in front of or behind you). As I understand it, the situation was something like the diagram below:

Three boats overlapped, approaching the start line to start. If MM has a problem, it is with PF not with BK. MM, as the leeward and therefore right-of-way boat, is entitled to luff up and PF must keep clear. If PF does not keep clear (be it because he doesn't want to cut you off or whatever), he is the one who is fouling MM and whom MM needs to protest. The only one in the situation above that can protest you is PF - if you, as the windward boat, do not keep clear. By the way, the right-of-way boat is also limited by Rule 16.1:

16 Changing Course
16.1 When a right-of-way boat changes course, she shall give the other boat room to keep clear.

This means that MM can luff PF but not too rapidly, or PF will not have room to keep clear

Another interesting point that comes up when my friends and I argue rules on snowy winter evenings is the common perception that, under the "new" rules, if a windward boat can stick its nose in between a leeward boat and the RC boat or the mark, the leeward boat is not allowed to cut her off, and that in this way, Windward can get away with barging. This would probably be true in the situation above: Once BK has reached a position where she can longer luff up without hitting the RC boat, PF is prohibited by Rule 16.1, from altering course to windward to force BK up further since PF will then not be giving "the other boat room to keep clear".

However, if I am the leeward boat and want to prevent a windward boat from barging, the trick is to establish a straightline course towards the corner of the RC boat that will cut the windward boats off. In this way, I am not altering course as the boats get closer and closer together, and am therefore not breaking Rule 16.1. I may still have to give room because Rule 14 requires me to avoid a collision:

14 Avoiding Contact
A boat shall avoid contact with another boat if reasonably possible. However, a right-of-way boat or one entitled to room or mark-room
(a) need not act to avoid contact until it is clear that the other boat is not keeping clear or giving room or mark-room, and
(b) shall be exonerated if she breaks this rule and the contact does not cause damage or injury.

So, if Windward starts sailing down into me because the alternative for windward is to prong the RC boat, then I must avoid a collision by bearing away and then protest windward. How close Windward can come to you before you can justify the need to bear off and a foul by Windward will depend on

a) the wind and waves
b) the size of the boats
c) the judgment of the Protest Committee

Obviously, Windward must get pretty darn close to Leeward before the latter can claim a foul, or it would be too easy for Leeward to cry foul when it's merely wishful thinking. A good committee will make the right call.

Well, Brian. This was fun. I hope it answers your question - or maybe it was too much of an answer. ...
Anyway, best wishes for happy sailing. Best regards,

Uncle Al (W3854)

PS: I presume that, since you mentioned nothing about Magic Misty protesting you at the time of the incident, the protest was not heard because MM failed to abide by Rule 61.1 which requires an immediate display of a protest flag (for your boats which are not under 6 metres long), and an immediate hail to the offending yacht:

61.1  Informing the Protestee
(a) A boat intending to protest shall inform the other boat at the first reasonable opportunity. When her protest will concern an incident in the racing area that she was involved in or saw, she shall hail ‘Protest’ and conspicuously display a red flag at the first reasonable opportunity for each. She shall display the flag until she is no longer racing. However,
(1) if the other boat is beyond hailing distance, the protesting boat need not hail but she shall inform the other boat at the first reasonable opportunity;
(2) if the hull length of the protesting boat is less than 6 metres, she need not display a red flag;
(3) if the incident was an error by the other boat in sailing the course, she need not hail or display a red flag but she shall inform the other boat before that boat finishes or at the first reasonable opportunity after she finishes;
(4) if the incident results in damage or injury that is obvious to the boats involved and one of them intends to protest, the requirements of this rule do not apply to her, but she shall attempt to inform the other boat within the time limit of rule 61.3.

Actually, the more I look at the rule above, the more I'm inclined to think that, in theory, MM could protest you in the situation above, but only if you actually fouled PF. Practically speaking, this would require iron-clad proof that you had fouled PF - by colliding with her for instance! If there was no collision and no protest from PF, MM cannot hope to win such a protest. Again, MM's concern should be with PF and not with you in this instance!

One final thought: If I were MM, I, too, would be upset but with PF and not with you. I'm sure that PF wanted to be nice to you and let you in, but PF was not allowed to do this by fouling another boat. 

....
Case #63
return to Quiz Index
...
If you have any Rules questions or scenarios that you'd like me to clarify,
I'd love to hear them and add them to this quiz!
Just contact Uncle Al at uncle-al3854@cogeco.ca